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Joe, his wife, Lily, and his sister (also Lily)
and an unknown clerical gentleman
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I
remember full well, that I left school on my 13th birthday, and the master told
my mother, that I was a bright boy, but oh so lazy! Of course it was very fortunate that I
discovered what ignorance meant as soon almost as I stepped out of the school
ground. Of course one can never really
make up for lost time. But then one has
to remember that the old London Board School never set out to make
scholars. As long as simple arithmetic
and elementary spelling were assimilated, the job was done. Believe it or not
though, I did not even get that far.
I have since made attempts amongst other things,
to acquire a smattering of Latin, but with no success. Fortunately I took interest in the French
language, and this gave me my chance on the Continental. [Attending Railway Union conferences
in Belinzona, Switzerland]
My grandfather did indeed learn French,
and I am sure many other things at evening classes. I don’t think that he ever
read Samuel Smiles’ Self Help,
but he definitely embraced the ethos of Victorian self–improvement. His father
was a goods–yard shunter on the railways, and Joe started off as a signal clerk.
He worked his way up gradually, and eventually became manager of the
Bricklayers Arms Goods Depot in south London. The depot was one of the largest
in the country, and of vital importance during WW2. Consequently it was extensively
bombed and at times not too far removed from war–front conditions. Post–war Joe
worked in railway offices at Victoria Station.
My (paternal)
grandmother died before I was born; and Joe remarried. He met his second wife
as a result of involvement with the Labour Party. Joe was a keen unionist, and
his second wife (Joy) was what used to be called a ‘silver spoon socialist’. She
was a member of the Cecil family, and her father owned much of the land around
the village of Bletchingley, Surrey – that is until he successfully managed to
gamble most of it away . . . However, Joy was a truly committed Labour Party member and was re–elected as Labour
candidate for the Rural District of Godstone & Parish of Bletchingley,
Surrey – in the very heart of Conservative country – year after year. That was
because people knew that she cared – and indeed she would willingly turn out in
the middle of the night to help someone. During Neil Kinnock’s leadership of
the Labour Party she was given one of two annually awarded Kier Hardy prizes
for outstanding local political
activity. Their marriage was amazing in a way: Joe from the working class roots,
and Joy from the upper or ‘landed’ classes. Further, Joe was twenty years older
than Joy. Nevertheless, it worked wonderfully. Joe became quite the squire in a
way – in Bletchingley – and I remember one Christmas his giving the post–boy a
half crown. This was a gesture of genuine kindness, but also I think a
demonstration of Joe’s standing in the community! Joe’s letter continues:
I am left with the impression that grandfather Hart was about twenty years older than grandma, in which case he would have been born about 1807. He seemed to have suffered from continuous ill health, which having no private means, caused the family some financial hardship. I learned that he was at one time a news reporter for a journal called “The South London Press”. He probably did some clerical work in the City of London. When he was alive, the family had a small house in South London near the Church of St George. –This is “Little Dorrit’s” church of Charles Dickens fame. (I have seen many of your soldiers visiting the church during the war)* The church was known as St George in the Fields when it was built. The district was bombed, but the church escaped serious damage.
I am left with the impression that grandfather Hart was about twenty years older than grandma, in which case he would have been born about 1807. He seemed to have suffered from continuous ill health, which having no private means, caused the family some financial hardship. I learned that he was at one time a news reporter for a journal called “The South London Press”. He probably did some clerical work in the City of London. When he was alive, the family had a small house in South London near the Church of St George. –This is “Little Dorrit’s” church of Charles Dickens fame. (I have seen many of your soldiers visiting the church during the war)* The church was known as St George in the Fields when it was built. The district was bombed, but the church escaped serious damage.
Grandma Hart always referred to grandfather
as “poor Hart” They appear to have lived quite happily together. It might be
asked why I did not fill in further details from my father or aunts. I suppose
the short answer would be that as I grew older, my interest diminished.
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On looking back I think it should be noted
with some interest that both grandparents could read and write, which
considering the state educational facilities of the early part of the last
century, marks them as being a little above the average. As a child I was very fond of Dickens (and I
still am) and when talking with me [sic] to grandma about a copy of Pickwick
Papers which I had just received from a library, she remembered when it came
out first, in weekly parts, and how “poor hart” [as grandma Hart always
referred to grandfather] purchased a copy on the day of issue, and with what
zest they both enjoyed reading it. One
of my boyhood heroes was Nelson, and you can imagine how widely I opened my
eyes when grandma told me that she knew and had spoken with a man who had
fought in Trafalgar under Nelson.
Another was George Stephenson, the power behind the steam locomotive,
and it was a wonder to me how grandma could possibly got [sic] before there
were railways! From this starting point
I elicited the information that when she first came to London, it was from the
White Hart Inn at Lewes [Sussex], that she started by stage coach from about
the year 1839. Apparently, as was not
unusual, she left the village to take service in London as a girl of eleven or
twelve, but in what capacity or where, history is silent.
Great grandfather Mabbott held some sort of
semi official office with the Lewes Town Council. At one time he was Town
Crier. This would require him to wear the gold braided cocked hat and cloak,
and after ringing his bell on the steps of the old town hall, and calling
“Oyez, Oyez” proceed to read to [sic] councils notices and proclamations,
followed by personal notices of things lost and found, and announcements. . .[I do not have the next page]
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Joy, my step–grandmother, taken
before she met my (paternal)
grandfather
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*This reference
to the war is puzzling. It is true that London was bombed during the First
World War, but not nearly as extensively as during the Second World War. But I imagine
that Joe still knew this area as a result of his work at the Bricklayers Arms
goods depot.



A very interesting piece on your family history. Thank you for sharing. I like the black did white photos s and the use of the different font. Helenxx
ReplyDeleteHelen, Thanks for this. I've got quite a lot of black and white family photos, and I like them better than colour photos. I will be posting another blog shortly—also on family history, and with some B&W photos. Peter
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